judd gregg. so you work for people who stood for office campaigned in the electoral system and the books about policy and the failure of policy seems to me that many people in the room have an example of that agree with your view in my view. about policy. the problem it seems to me isn't the policy, but a way out. and that seems to me the question is politics and leadership. and i don't see leaders out there for these people who agree with these policy problems to coalesce around to find a solution. in other words, electoral politics. so you work for republicans, i work for democrats. and i'm wondering if you see any leader out there who might precipitate out these people who share our feelings and a way that might help to get a hold of the policies. but the only way to do that is to get a hold of the electoral system. and you say. do you see anybody? >> not on the horizon. >> i mean, do you see anybody at all? >> now appeared in any case my days of endorsing politicians are over. >> well who in